Posts by Happy Harvester

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Message board ranks...who cares?

by Burger Time in

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not to be mean but why should i care that you have 3,000 posts?

this yet again proves how useless even making stats like this public are.

it just gives people ammo to say, "i have 25,000 posts so obviously i am more vested in this board then you".

Happy Harvester

I'm just glad I changed my screen name before I reached 2000 posts.

Now, I don't have to look at that huge number and have it remind me everytime I see it to "get a life."

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New to this Site

by prodigal_son in

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i have been a disfellowshiped joho (what i call jehovah's witnesses now) for 7 years and i still find it hard every single day!

i have just recently reunited with 2 of my 4 sisters who have taken a stand just like myself!

i encourage anyone who is struggling with the decisoin to leave or not to leave, but beleive me and the countless others, it was the best decision of my life!!!

Welcome, prodigal son. I did not know that Jehovah's Witnesses in Canada referred to themselves as ministers. That's highly unusual in the U.S. for a witness to say. Anyway, welcome. I learn something new each day, it seems.

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HOW MANY DIED DURING CRUSADES?

by writetoknow in

hitler, lenin, stalin, mao et al: .

(the heart of this statement is: darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by god....) .

1856; d. 1939) sigmund freuds impact on 20th century thinking is almost too great to measure.

Happy Harvester

It really doesn't mean a thing it what agenda one is promoting

Especially when one is under the influence or is unable and unwilling to comprehend the facts.

I shall remove myself from this thread until you can communicate sensibly, without writing in a near-drunken, slovenly, graphomanic rant, and when you find it less challenging to write and read comprehensively.

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HOW CLEAN IS YOUR HOUSE? (fluff test)

by Mary in

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ever see those two british women on tv that go into some slob's home that looks like something out of a stephen king novel?

take their quiz to see if you're a neat-freak, or a sloth-in-waiting: http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/100/quiz.jsp.

here's mine:.

Happy Harvester

I am definitely gonna clean for the in-laws big time (saturday-anyone want to help??)

I'd love to help . . . now, let me see if I can find my magic wand . . . be with you as soon as I find it . . . .

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HOW MANY DIED DURING CRUSADES?

by writetoknow in

hitler, lenin, stalin, mao et al: .

(the heart of this statement is: darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by god....) .

1856; d. 1939) sigmund freuds impact on 20th century thinking is almost too great to measure.

Happy Harvester

Here you will find a very clean, concise, understandable explanation of 29 evidences for evolution by common descent, if you actually do care to come to an understanding of this theory:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

I enjoyed reading this a few months back, and think you might also find it interesting. Good luck in your search, writetoknow.

-HH

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HOW MANY DIED DURING CRUSADES?

by writetoknow in

hitler, lenin, stalin, mao et al: .

(the heart of this statement is: darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by god....) .

1856; d. 1939) sigmund freuds impact on 20th century thinking is almost too great to measure.

Happy Harvester

The only sweeping generalization I make is based on fact - the fact of evolution - as established through more scientific studies and research than I could amass for you myself in a lifetime.

If you care to look at any of it, I highly recommed that you read at talkorigins. That is an excellent starting place for learning about scientific origins and evolution.

There are many more sites like it.

Evolutionary theory is a fact.

Culture evolved and developed as a result of the evolution of our unusually large brains and our desire as humans to create and control the environment.

That too is a fact, whether you believe it or not.

Saying you do not agree with facts because you don't isn't a proof against them.

It only validates your smugness to state that facts are tenuous generalizations, while suggesting that religion is some kind of extraordinary answer to the wonderful mystery of the origins of the cosmos.

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HOW MANY DIED DURING CRUSADES?

by writetoknow in

hitler, lenin, stalin, mao et al: .

(the heart of this statement is: darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by god....) .

1856; d. 1939) sigmund freuds impact on 20th century thinking is almost too great to measure.

Happy Harvester

Scientific research and statistical analyses aren't necessarily about imputing motives, although religiosity often is.

The person who compiled those numbers offered a rough estimate, based on educated guess work.

What kind of educated guess work or research have you offered?

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Same DNA as Christ

by JH in

my mother is studying with the baptists.

it's her 2nd weekly study with a woman about her age, and today she told me this.. "did you know that those that have "accepted christ", have the same dna?.

then i told her, where did you see that?

Happy Harvester

Thanks so much for the belly laughs! I seriously needed to see that!ROFFLMAO

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Anger

by dawg in

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i'm not trying to defend anyone's actions including mine, but i can certainly see how many of us feel anger.... my father is a sucessful business man, loved in the community by the "worldly" and the jws alike; he's also very logical in almost everyway until we talk about the witnesses.

becasue he's so chrismatic, he's played a role in converting almost everyone in the family-i'm irish so it's one darn big family, into being devout jws.

when i think about how much i love my dad, and my family and couple that with the fact that the only beef we have with one another is the fact that i see through the gb lies; it makes me mad that the love i once felt will never be there again becasue of this division.

Happy Harvester

Lulu - It would be most unkind to put a stophold on the payment, would it not?

Or to demand a refund?

Well, go to the danged thing if you paid for it, unless it's not worth the trouble.

That's gotta' be one of the crapiest things I've ever heard.

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HOW MANY DIED DURING CRUSADES?

by writetoknow in

hitler, lenin, stalin, mao et al: .

(the heart of this statement is: darwin put an end to the belief that the animal and vegetable species..were created by god....) .

1856; d. 1939) sigmund freuds impact on 20th century thinking is almost too great to measure.

Happy Harvester

You might find the answer to your original question, "how many died during the crusades" here, along with some other enlightening information on all the bad things people have done to each other before the 20th century:

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm

Here, someone else has done the arithmetic, since you really wanted to know:

Crusades (1095-1291)

Estimated totals:
- Wertham: 1,000,000
- Charles Mackay, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (1841): 2,000,000 Europeans killed. [ http://www.bootlegbooks.com/NonFiction/Mackay/PopDelusions/chap09.html ]
- Aletheia, The Rationalist's Manual: 5,000,000
Individual Events:
- Davies: Crusaders killed up to 8,000 Jews in Rhineland
- Paul Johnson A History of the Jews (1987): 1,000 Jewish women in Rhineland comm. suicide to avoid the mob, 1096.
- Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, v.5, 6
  - 1st Crusade: 300,000 Eur. k at Battle of Nice [Nicea].
  - Crusaders vs. Solimon of Roum: 4,000 Christians, 3,000 Moslems
  - 1098, Fall of Antioch: 100,000 Moslems massacred.
  - 50,000 Pilgrims died of disease.
  - 1099, Fall of Jerusalem: 70,000 Moslems massacred.
  - Siege of Tiberias: 30,000 Christians k.
  - Siege of Tyre: 1,000 Turks
  - Richard the Lionhearted executes 3,000 Moslem POWs.
  - 1291: 100,000 Christians k after fall of Acre.
  - Fall of Christian Antioch: 17,000 massacred.
  - [TOTAL: 677,000 listed in these episodes here.]
- Catholic Encyclopedia (1910) [ http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/ ]
  - Jaffa: 20,000 Christians massacred, 1197
- Sorokin estimates that French, English & Imperial German Crusaders lost a total of 3,600 in battle.
  - 1st C (1096-99): 400
  - 2nd C (1147-49): 750
  - 3rd C (1189-91): 930
  - 4th C (1202-04): 120
  - 5th C (1228-29): 600
  - 7th C (1248-54): 700
- James Trager, The People's Chronology (1992)
  - 1099: Crusaders slaughter 40,000 inhabs of Jerusalem. Dis/starv reduced Crusaders from 300,000 to 60,000.
  - 1147: 2nd Crusades begins with 500,000. "Most" lost to starv./disease/battle.
  - 1190: 500 Jews massacred in York.
  - 1192: 3rd Crusade reduced from 100,000 to 5,000 through famine, plagues and desertions in campaign vs Antioch.
  - 1212: Children's Crusade loses some 50,000.
  - [TOTAL: Just in these incidents, it appears the Europeans lost around 650,000.]

TOTAL: When I take all the individual death tolls listed here, weed out the duplicates, fill in the blanks, apply Occam ("Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate"), etc. I get a very rough total of 1½ M deaths in the Crusades.